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Do You Doula? An Exclusive Interview
with Dr. John Kennell
By Emily Ray
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Recently, New Life Journal had the opportunity
to speak with the renowned Dr. John Kennell, a pioneer in the
field of perinatal healthcare. It was Dr. Kennell (along with
his colleague Dr. Marshall Klaus) who introduced the United States
to the benefits of having a doula (birth attendant) present during
a birth. His near 200 publications reflect a prominent career
as a pediatrician, scholar, and most importantly, as an advocate
for children and their families. As a Founding Member of the Doulas
of North America (DONA) and as Ohio Pediatrician of the Year,
many credit Dr. Kennell with revolutionizing maternal and newborn
care practices.
NLJ: Dr. Kennell, you are an adamant supporter
of doulas, and much of your research has focused on the benefits
of having a doula present during the birth process. You are often
quoted, having stated: “If a doula were a drug, it would
be malpractice not to use it.” That’s a pretty strong
statement.
Dr. Kennell: Yes it is.
NLJ: Why do you feel doulas are so important?
Dr. Kennell: Up until 100 years ago, mothers
almost entirely delivered at home. They were usually in a familiar
environment, usually with people they knew very well. There was
no separation of mother and baby. The baby was delivered, started
breastfeeding, and they just stayed together. In the Twentieth
Century, there were big changes, motivated to a great extent by
the great problems of infections. Fortunately, antibiotics came
along and helped to improve that situation. Then, along came “Twilight
Sleep” which was originally thought to be so good. Mothers
who had the medication were just wild; they didn’t know
what they were doing. Their families weren’t allowed to
see them. So that separated the mother from her family, and separated
the baby from its mother. A lot of things happened that took the
woman supporting the mother out of the picture. In the 1950s and
1960s, there was a big movement to get away from medication and
to get back to more natural childbirth. Mothers were awake and
conscious, and many were doing it by natural childbirth. The support
for the mother, which had been the nurse up until that point,
needed to be replaced. The first thought was that the replacement
would be the father, but there was initially a struggle to get
the fathers admitted into the labor and delivery areas. But in
the 1960s and 1970s, we saw a great increase in the amount of
father participation.
NLJ: Why do you think that was?
Dr. Kennell: Oh, I think that was due to mother’s
wanting to have someone with them. Why I feel so strongly about
a doula... I haven’t gotten there yet, have I? [Laughter]
When providing the mother with a doula, which is really bringing
back an old, old practice, we found that it just made a remarkable
difference in the obstetric outcomes. So that’s one reason.
There are strong suggestions that mothers who have a doula feel
much better about themselves and how they did during labor. Mothers
think they’ve got a great baby. They think they’ve
got a very clever baby. That they have the most beautiful baby.
Essentially, there is a greater enthusiasm. Remarkably, the mothers
who have a doula think their relationship with their partner after
the birth improved. So, something that makes mothers enthusiastic
about their baby and about what they did themselves, that’s
great.
In the late 1960s, [Dr. Klaus and I] did the bonding study. Back
at that time, the practice in almost every medical center was
that mothers would have medication. Mothers would deliver their
baby. The obstetrician might show the baby to the mother. Then
the nurse would bring the baby to the mother six, ten, twelve
hours later and would show her that the baby had ten fingers and
toes. Often, the mother didn’t get to hold the baby at that
point. Then the baby would come in every four hours for a twenty-minute
feeding. This was a terrible thing for breastfeeding.
NLJ: Why did that happen?
Dr. Kennell: Some of the early pediatricians
did studies on babies that had died, on how much fluid the stomach
could hold. [These pediatricians] figured out that if you gave
a certain amount every four hours, it would meet the needs of
the baby. There was no paying attention to what the baby wanted.
The babies would be ready to eat right away, but they wouldn’t
get to their mother for twelve hours. Then, the poor baby would
cry for hours and would fall asleep, exhausted. Then the baby
comes in for twenty minutes, and the mother is trying to get the
baby up and get the breastfeeding going. So, in our bonding studies,
we wanted to get mothers and babies together within the first
hour. The babies had early contact an hour or so after birth mother
and baby together. When the babies were a month of age, we had
them come back. There was a significant difference in the behavior
of the mothers who had that early contact.
There were behaviors of the mother, in that study, that are similar
to what I’m talking about with the mothers who have doulas.
That keeps me wondering if we haven’t done away with a lot
of the natural, wonderful behaviors mothers have towards their
babies. Modern obstetrics is so high pressure, so rush-rush. So
many things for a mother to worry about.
NLJ: Are doulas able to help encourage mothers
to have a natural birth?
Dr. Kennell: Absolutely. Not all doulas appreciate
how important they might be [to empowering a birthing mother].
Mothers can have plenty of questions. “What’s going
to happen next? What did the doctor mean just then?” If
it’s a fairly long labor, it is very confusing to mothers
where they stand. Are they making reasonable progress? Things
like that. A doula is not just present to lessen pain. Actually,
a doula has a similar effect as an epidural. Just to qualify that
a bit: by mothers being more relaxed, they don’t see the
same pain or pressure. By that relaxation, comfort and assurance
mothers get from a doula, it has almost the same effect as an
epidural.
NLJ: So doulas are able to help not only through their
use of pain management techniques but also by giving emotional
support. They’re useful for all different types of births
then?
Dr. Kennell: So why doesn’t everyone have
one? Doulas don’t seem to fit in with obstetrician’s
ideas about birthing. While they go along with it, they’re
not strongly talking to the mothers about how valuable it can
be. There are exceptions. Doulas that have been effective have
been ones that were hired by the mother. They are independent
contractors. [Although] there are doulas who work for no charge
at all, the fact that there is a charge is important to families
these days, so that’s a factor. And if your obstetrician
isn’t saying this is a very desirable thing, that pushes
the mother a certain way.
NLJ: Are doulas a replacement for family?
Dr. Kennell: The labor and delivery area really
isn’t like an intensive care area. It really isn’t
like an open heart surgery area. But there are a lot of machines
around. There are a lot of things that are baffling to parents.
The great majority of fathers want to do everything they can to
support their wife. I do want to support fathers, but they really
are not well prepared. We’ve compared fathers to doulas,
and their patterns are very different. A doula has a number of
things that the average father doesn’t have (because of
her training).
NLJ: Can doulas help to encourage fathers to
participate?
Dr. Kennell: It’s important to emphasize that a
great many fathers have an image that this [birth] is going to
be a wonderful, little, private affair for himself and his partner.
So they bring their music, their pictures, all sorts of things.
With that expectation, many fathers say, “No, we don’t
want a doula.” In our studies, we would have fathers who
would say, “I’m going to be there with my wife. We’ll
be fine.” A month later when they got to the hospital in
labor, I got many frantic calls. “Can we get a doula? Can
we get a doula?” Of course at that point, it’s too
late. The response upon us is much better than I ever thought
it would be. The mothers and fathers are very, very positive about
their experiences with a doula.
Emily Ray is a freelance writer
in Atlanta, GA and a frequent contributor to New Life Journal.
Dr. Kennell will be a featured speaker at the upcoming Asheville
Birth Conference, “Nurturing the Birth of a New Family,”
on April 2-4, 2004. For more information on the Asheville Birth
Conference, call 828-250-5290 or visit www.buncombe.org/abc/.
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